Episode 7 — Black Friday Preparation
Guest: Boyd Esser, Marketplace Specialist at Taskforce | Host: Lucas Bassa
(Channable)
Lucas Bassa (00:00.386)
Welcome to a new episode of the Marketplace Growth Podcast. I'm joined by
Boyd Esser from Taskforce, an agency we've been partnered with for quite some
time at Channable, who also works on marketplaces. Today we're talking about
Black Friday and how you can properly prepare for it on marketplaces. So before
we dive in, Boyd, a quick introduction on your end.
Boyd Esser (00:30.544)
Yes, Lucas, thank you. My name is Boyd, I'm from Borne, and I'm a Marketplace
Specialist at Taskforce — I've been in that role for a while now, and in other
functions before that. My main focus is Amazon and bol, the full-on strategy. So
Black Friday preparation naturally comes with that.
Lucas Bassa (00:54.05)
So, we're recording this in August — from my experience, that's the month when
Black Friday prep slowly starts. Do you see that happen too?
Boyd Esser (01:06.704)
Yeah, people start figuring out their strategy and setting up promotion plans. It's
brand-dependent — some brands rely heavily on Black Friday and promotional
sales, others less so. But generally, most preparation kicks off around August.
Lucas Bassa (01:28.046)
Before we dive in — what's the last thing you bought on a marketplace? Or do
you avoid them?
Boyd Esser (01:33.712)
No, no, not at all — I love marketplaces. I bought a gift for my girlfriend, a watch.
She doesn't know yet, so I hope she doesn't listen to this podcast.
Lucas Bassa (01:45.294)
I would highly doubt it. Nice — and on which marketplace?
Boyd Esser (01:53.488)
bol. Yeah, bol.
Lucas Bassa (01:54.886)
Okay — for us Dutchies, still the biggest channel, though Amazon is gaining
ground fast. For this episode, what I'd love to get to are concrete takeaways on
how to prepare for Black Friday. There are always the obvious ones — make sure
you have enough stock, consider advertising — but let's go through this
chronologically. Where would you start when preparing clients for Black Friday?
Boyd Esser (02:33.327)
It obviously depends on how mature the brand is, and how mature the client is on
marketplaces in general. Black Friday can be a great growth engine as well as a
retention engine — brands get new customer acquisition, but also win back
churned customers who dropped off or moved on due to price increases. So I'd
suggest everyone selling on marketplaces participates in Black Friday in some
form. To start, you need to figure out what works for you, because some brands
actually damage themselves by discounting too heavily. If you give a fifty to sixty
percent discount, you devalue your normal selling range, which hurts your brand
long-term because people start waiting for deal days instead of buying at full
price. A good example — I'm not saying they've damaged their brand, but take
Upfront Protein. I only buy—
Lucas Bassa (03:49.207)
Yeah, for sure.
Boyd Esser (03:53.301)
—their supplements when they run big discounts. That's the kind of customer
base you build when you rely heavily on discounting.
Lucas Bassa (04:01.965)
That's a good example — I've followed them on LinkedIn for a while, and they
started off saying they only wanted to discount once a year. The supplement
space is a good example of how far this can go: the discounted price ends up
perceived as the normal price. I'm exactly the same — I never buy that kind of
product at full price. But for...
Boyd Esser (04:12.421)
Mm-hmm.
Boyd Esser (04:24.081)
Mm-hmm.
Lucas Bassa (04:31.405)
So for normal brands — outside supplements or electronics — setting the
discount percentage is already a strategic decision, both in how deep you go and
how often. Some brands only discount around Black Friday. You're saying you
have to learn what works — does that mean you need a Black Friday or two under
your belt first, or can you learn what works before Black Friday even hits? Say you
start selling in January — could you have a strategy ready by September?
Boyd Esser (05:12.773)
Yes, of course — Black Friday is considered the biggest one, but bol has bol Sale
Days, and there's also Prime Day and summer deal days on Amazon. Those are all
hyped-up discount days before Black Friday, and that's where you can test your
approach and see what discount percentage works best without hurting your
brand. What I see with a lot of clients is they build up toward Black Friday and see
a dip in sales, then a peak on Black Friday itself, then another dip afterward. But if
sales had just continued at their normal pace, the total would often be the same.
By running a huge discount on Black Friday, you create one period where you
barely make any money — sales are low in the lead-up, margins are too thin
during the peak because the discount is so deep, and then you dip again
afterward. Whereas if you'd given a ten or twenty percent discount instead, sales
would have fluctuated less and your margins would have stayed protected.
Lucas Bassa (06:21.453)
Right — part of it is also that Black Friday has gotten so big that I often see clients
have a week of low sales regardless, just because shoppers add items to their
basket and wait to see if the product they were already planning to buy gets
discounted. But indeed—
Boyd Esser (06:34.79)
Mm-hmm.
Lucas Bassa (06:48.141)
You have plenty of data options in Amazon, and bol too, to evaluate afterward —
was I purchased because I gave a big discount, or were they going to buy anyway
and this just gave them the nudge? So this whole decision on how much
discount to give — you're saying it should factor in your actual goal. Is it to win
over new customers? It could also be to clear out stock, where profitability matters
less because you just need the warehouse empty. What decisions go into setting
those discounts? Because that's ultimately one of the most important calls you
make. And do you discount—
Boyd Esser (07:28.497)
Mm-hmm.
Boyd Esser (07:41.392)
Yeah.
Lucas Bassa (07:45.515)
—your entire assortment, or what's the approach?
Boyd Esser (07:49.574)
That's brand-dependent, because a lot of brands have their A, B, and C tiers — top
tier, mid tier, and lower tier — with different margins on each. That ties back to
what I said earlier: you want to protect your brand. You don't want a sixty percent
discount on your A-tier products, because you want to position them as high-end,
and people are willing to pay more for that. So balancing that percentage is what
you should test — and you can test it on Prime Day or bol Sale Days. You need to
find the sweet spot, then measure the results after the campaign: is the brand
growing as a whole, or is it just the same customers waiting to buy from one
discount to the next? Getting that insight through Amazon is fairly easy, since the
data is readily available. bol is less so, which makes it harder to base your discount
decisions on. In those cases, your own webshop is also valuable for getting that
data and trying to match it across marketplaces.
Lucas Bassa (09:20.589)
What do you mean exactly — using your webshop data to inform marketplace
decisions?
Boyd Esser (09:28.485)
Yes — the discounts that work on your webshop should work similarly on
marketplaces. Obviously there's a lot more competition on marketplaces, so you
want to be as compelling as possible compared to competitors. But the insights
from your webshop should broadly match what works on marketplaces in terms
of discount percentages.
Lucas Bassa (09:53.378)
Okay — you mentioned it's fairly easy to extract that information on Amazon.
Which reports or metrics do you actually use to make that evaluation afterward?
And can you apply that same information to bol or another marketplace?
Boyd Esser (10:16.753)
With bol it's more difficult, because Amazon has Brand Analytics, where you can
look back months, quarters, or even years and see which customers have
returned to repurchase within that period. That's especially useful for brands with
fast-moving consumer goods, like olive oil or supplements — products where a
customer isn't a one-time purchase, but has high repurchase value once you've
won them. That's the kind of customer you want to target, though it's also the
category where you need to be careful with how much you discount. Copying
that data over to bol is difficult, because bol doesn't make it readily available.
There, you have to dig into your own data and try to mirror what you see on
Amazon — the closest KPIs you can match it to are overall growth and branded
search.
Lucas Bassa (11:32.674)
Yeah. I'm confident bol will add more metrics on this in the future — I think it's
something they're working on. You also mentioned something interesting: the
repurchasability of your product should influence your discount percentage. If you
can win a customer for a repurchasable product — a consumer good—
Boyd Esser (11:40.165)
Let's hope so.
Lucas Bassa (12:02.317)
—you're more likely to win them over for repeat purchases. So does that mean you
give a high discount to get them into your brand and turn them into a fan, or a
low discount so you don't set the wrong price expectation?
Boyd Esser (12:18.949)
That's the sweet spot you have to find. Luckily, Amazon has abandoned-basket
coupons — so customers who didn't purchase during Black Friday can be
retargeted afterward with an extra discount, bridging the gap between what they
saw and what they get. You can also reward loyal customers with a discount that
way. Those are tactics I've seen work well, especially when a product's repurchase
potential is high. For those products, Black Friday campaigns should really focus
on new-to-brand orders rather than orders in general — that's a great metric
Amazon has, and bol sadly doesn't, not yet at least.
Lucas Bassa (13:16.247)
It's one I've used too — it hasn't been around that long, but you can set
campaigns to bid higher specifically for new-to-brand audiences. If you're focused
on growing brand share, that's a great report to have as a brand owner.
Boyd Esser (13:31.853)
Audiences — yeah.
Lucas Bassa (13:45.408)
If your brand share is low in a certain category and you want to bring in more
customers, Black Friday is the moment to do it — you can spend more
aggressively on new-to-brand searches, since lifetime value is much higher for
newly converted shoppers. Okay, so we've talked about setting percentages and
discounts, and how they can gain you a lot but also hurt your business. What
other variables matter for a successful Black Friday besides percentages?
Boyd Esser (14:29.829)
As you said, you need to have stock, and a clear strategy for why you're
participating in Black Friday deals. Are you clearing old stock, introducing a new
or more optimized model, or trying to grow, as we just discussed? It's also a great
opportunity to reach new audiences, because traffic on platforms like bol and
Amazon is so high on those deal days. If you set up campaigns tactically — not
just sponsored products, but also branded shelves, display campaigns, or product
detail targeting on bol — you can get your brand out there far more, sometimes
cheaper than usual, because the volume is so high and most sellers are still
mainly investing in sponsored product results. I've seen brands that really focus on
display campaigns on Amazon during Black Friday see huge spikes in
impressions and clicks, even as CPC trends downward — because of that same
volume increase.
Lucas Bassa (16:01.559)
So even though more sellers are advertising, the sheer volume of clicks and
impressions tends to bring CPC down anyway? Right. So the point is: don't just
run the regular ads — add sponsored display and sponsored brands too. In
general, if you're already advertising on Amazon—
Boyd Esser (16:11.567)
In some cases, yeah.
Lucas Bassa (16:29.215)
—which, in my opinion, is pay-to-play — you need to run ads as a brand to do
anything on Amazon — what would you change in your advertising strategy for
Black Friday, to leverage that volume increase?
Boyd Esser (16:48.005)
One tool I use in Amazon during Black Friday is dynamic budgeting. It gives
campaigns room to learn and lets their budget increase automatically, without
you having to manually adjust things constantly. If you're running three
marketplaces and all of them have Black Friday deals running at once, you can't
watch every campaign on every platform around the clock — it's usually a week of
activity, with the real peak being about three days. You can't work yourself into the
ground, so give the campaigns space, and make sure you start early. I usually start
two to three weeks before Black Friday, aggressively increasing bids on sponsored
product results to build up top-of-search positioning.
Lucas Bassa (17:36.597)
How early?
Boyd Esser (17:54.616)
—bidding, and I actively start creating new campaigns with a dedicated Black
Friday budget and separate KPIs.
Lucas Bassa (18:05.709)
So dynamic budgeting is an Amazon setting. Do other marketplaces have
something similar, or is it more manual? Do you use external tools?
Boyd Esser (18:14.833)
For bol I use external tools — we've recently partnered with a tool provider [name
unclear in recording] that also allows day-parting. Especially around Black Friday,
you can really experiment with campaigns, and if you have a limited budget, you
can pause campaigns through that tooling too, which takes some of the pressure
off during those busy days.
Lucas Bassa (18:42.679)
And how important is day-parting in that context?
Boyd Esser (18:49.509)
That completely depends on your budget. Sadly, bol doesn't give conversion
percentages per hour, so actively steering budget and bids toward the hours with
the highest conversion rate is still a bit of a shot in the dark — bol just doesn't
share that data. What you can see is trends in when orders are placed. But if you
see your budget running out by three o'clock, you should probably lower your
bids if you can't raise the budget — which is something a lot of brands run into.
Lucas Bassa (19:19.614)
But ideally you want to stay in-budget all day. So then it's—
Lucas Bassa (19:35.022)
In an ideal scenario, you'd have plenty of budget to let everything run. That's
obviously something to discuss with the brand, or internally if you are the brand —
what's the goal? Do you want to make a profit? That will translate into a max
spend or a target margin.
Boyd Esser (19:50.703)
Mm-hmm.
Lucas Bassa (20:04.151)
But that's all part of the broader strategy for how you want to leverage Black
Friday.
Boyd Esser (20:09.871)
Exactly. That's one of the things you need to define beforehand — do you want to
increase brand awareness, increase sales, or are you trying to make money?
Lucas Bassa (20:19.435)
Okay — so for prepping, you start adding new campaigns and increasing budgets
about three weeks in advance. Why is it important to start that early?
Boyd Esser (20:32.677)
Because, as we touched on earlier, pre-shopping is real. We see traffic spikes one
to two weeks before Black Friday — people start adding things to their basket,
then open it on the day itself and make purchase decisions based on what's
discounted. You also want to build up your ranking before the huge traffic hits, so
you get more organic visibility on top of your paid visibility. That combination is
what carries you toward a profitable Black Friday, instead of just spending without
return.
Lucas Bassa (21:28.301)
I've seen that too. The volume now — Black Friday started as one day, then we got
Cyber Monday, and now it's basically two weeks of high-volume shopping. We've
talked about pre-shopping, but you also mentioned reaching out to customers
proactively after the peak. Is that a separate, post-Black Friday strategy?
Boyd Esser (22:03.237)
Yes. After Black Friday, a lot of budgets run out — brands see decreased
performance, or the monthly budget is simply spent. But if you retarget
customers who didn't purchase during Black Friday, December is usually still a
high-converting month, since people are shopping for gifts again. You might be
the one offering a discount when your competitor isn't, because they spent their
entire discount budget on Black Friday. Setting up abandoned-basket campaigns
for those products — especially fast-moving goods people repurchase monthly or
bi-monthly — is a strong way to retarget those customers. It also works well for
gift-giving categories: a Black Friday purchase in November might be for
themselves, and by December, if they're happy with the product, they're looking
for something similar to gift to someone else.
Lucas Bassa (23:11.373)
The gifting category is definitely a winner during these high-volume months. But
it's also interesting to think about after-sales — we often see January as a
relatively low month, even though there's an opportunity to leverage all the new
data and new customers gained in Q4 and try to turn them into lifelong brand
customers by surprising them. I think that's an interesting approach, because
after Black Friday it's usually evaluation time rather than action time — and that
can be an oversight. So, we've covered the lead-up and advertising, and setting
percentages. Is there anything else that's vital for a successful Black Friday?
Boyd Esser (24:25.169)
Yes — a specific example of something not to do is raising your price before Black
Friday, then discounting it on the day. The US and Canada have already rolled out
price-history look-back: people can see the average price of a product over the
past 365 days. So if you raised your price a month before Black Friday and then
only gave an effective five percent discount instead of the fifty percent you're
showing, customers can now see that. It's also already available in the EU, though
you currently have to ask Amazon's AI assistant, Rufus, or Alexa. So the EU market
probably won't be far behind in implementing that feature more visibly on
Amazon. Even bol is testing price look-back, particularly around the red discount
banner and the 'most shown price' tag.
Lucas Bassa (25:46.732)
A lot of channels are doing this now, right? MediaMarkt had real problems in the
past with unfair pricing, and now they show the average price over the last three
months, so you can't game it anymore. It's really just — don't do that, because
legislation is catching up quickly too. Anything else you shouldn't be doing, or
want to avoid?
Boyd Esser (26:23.429)
In the past, I've worked with many brands that have either an account manager or
a promotion specialist from the marketplace itself, reaching out to ask if they
want to actively participate in deal days like Black Friday. What I've seen is that
the reach you get by participating through an account manager or promotion
specialist is a much bigger opportunity than setting up your own promotions. On
bol you get commission discounts, and on Amazon you can participate in Best
Deals and Lightning Deals — if you set those up yourself, they cost money or a
percentage of revenue, but going through an account or promotion specialist is
usually free, and you can do it at much greater scale. The results have consistently
proven more lucrative when participating directly with the marketplace rather
than setting it up yourself. So if you get that opportunity, take it with both hands.
Lucas Bassa (27:33.141)
And if you're listening and want that opportunity but haven't gotten it yet — is
there a way to go after it?
Boyd Esser (27:42.678)
Definitely. In the past I've sent LinkedIn messages directly to Amazon employees
— it's a bit less official, but it works. You can also apply through Amazon's chat
support, open a case, and ask for a specialist. Usually, once you start selling on
Amazon, you should fall under some account manager, but sometimes they just
haven't had the time to reach out yet. On bol, you can also try to get a
promotional specialist through chat support. And obviously, once you grow big
enough, they'll reach out to you proactively — that's a strategy too.
Lucas Bassa (28:24.801)
That's ultimately the goal. Okay, clear. Let's move on to the main takeaways — the
golden nuggets for a good Black Friday. What would be your golden nuggets for
anyone listening who wants to make this their best Black Friday yet?
Boyd Esser (28:48.069)
The most important one is: find out what works for you. Test your discount
percentages on other deal days, and make sure you don't damage your brand by
discounting too heavily. Another one — start building relevancy and advertising
early, to get the ball rolling and reap what you've sown in the weeks beforehand,
taking advantage of that early pre-shopping traffic bump.
Lucas Bassa (29:31.799)
Mm-hmm.
Boyd Esser (29:33.21)
Another one we haven't mentioned yet is more on the protection side — try to use
FBA, or FBB (Fulfilment by bol), to protect yourself, your shipping performance,
and your account, so you don't go offline in December. I've seen it happen a few
times where a warehouse promises next-day delivery, a marketplace manager
isn't quite attentive enough, and a few weeks later you're facing three or four
strikes on bol, or your account gets closed. On Amazon, you can face penalties too,
like losing your Featured Offer.
Lucas Bassa (30:18.455)
Right — because with the increase in volume, if you have an operational hiccup,
the likelihood of cancellations goes up too. That's also part of why, at Channable,
as an integrator, we see very little change happening right before Black Friday —
very few new customers onboarding or existing ones leaving. And I think that's for
good reason: you don't want to change things up in the heat of the moment. Just
like before a race, you don't suddenly change your supplements or your running
shoes. It's not the moment for that. So yes, that's also a very good tip.
Lucas Bassa (31:12.289)
Start early, learn what works for you, analyze your data from previous deal days,
and take advantage of that build-up phase where people are browsing, adding
things to their basket, and waiting for discounts. Don't go overboard with
discounts — or do, depending on your strategy. Anything else you'd want to add,
or is this the core of it?
Boyd Esser (31:44.418)
One of the main things that's worked in the past: don't raise your price just to
discount it afterward — it won't work. Another one is don't adjust your ads too
soon, especially on the day itself. People shop throughout the day, so your budget
might burn through early while conversions actually happen later — because it's
still a Friday, people are working, and they're more likely to buy once they're
home.
Lucas Bassa (32:18.573)
Good point. I do the same as a shopper — I browse and check what's interesting,
but convert in the evening or later. Okay, nice. So have you already started Black
Friday prep for your clients?
Boyd Esser (32:38.437)
Especially the promotion-heavy clients, yes — all the deals are set up. We've got
some nice cooperation lined up with bol as well, and some pretty big discounts
coming. Exciting stuff.
Lucas Bassa (32:47.595)
Cool, nice. Are you still making any big operational changes, or has that window
passed already?
Boyd Esser (33:01.015)
No, that moment has mostly passed — no more expansion to other marketplaces
for now. All eyes are on Q4 preparation.
Lucas Bassa (33:13.601)
Exciting — cool. Let's wrap it up, Boyd. I think this is a nice check-in ahead of Black
Friday to make sure you're doing the right things, especially if you're a brand
without an agency supporting you, running things yourself. I like the FBA tip,
because every Q4 we see the limitations of carriers like PostNL and DHL — and
rightfully so, since we just keep ordering. I believe Utrecht is the city that orders
the most online. So I sympathize with the people delivering all those packages on
that crazy timetable. But thanks for the talk — and if people need help from you...
Boyd Esser (33:58.049)
[laughs]
Lucas Bassa (34:10.615)
—they can probably reach out on LinkedIn, right? Or are you all booked up for
Black Friday?
Boyd Esser (34:14.095)
Yeah, and through Taskforce, of course.
Lucas Bassa (34:17.665)
Cool — Taskforce has been a friend of Channable's for a while, so I'm excited that
you're doing marketplaces there too. Alright, thanks again, Boyd — we'll talk again
sometime.
Boyd Esser (34:32.22)
Thank you for having me, Lucas.